PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 1 July 2024

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Vice Chair)
Ira McDonald (High North, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Alan Sukert (Independent, IDS WG Chair)
Paul Tykodi (TCS, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Bill Wagner (TIC, former Cloud WG Chair, former WIMS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Smith Kennedy.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with draft minutes from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Ira McDonald and Jeremy Leber as minute takers

- Revised Agenda:

  (1) Administrivia
  (2) Action Item Review - new and old
  (3) PWG Hosting Organization - status (Mike/Jeremy/Smith/Ira)
  (4) SC workflow while Ira is away - status (Jeremy/Smith/Ira)
  (5) PWG August 2024 Agenda - status (All)
  (6) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)
  (7) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
  (8) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
  (9) PWG 3D PR Opportunities - update (Paul)
  (10) Other Liaisons - status (Smith/Mike)
  (11) Next SC meetings

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20240617.htm

- IPR and Antitrust

- Roll Call

- Review minutes of SC meeting (17 June 2024)
  - Approved

(2) Action Item Review

* New Actions:
No new action items from 06/17/24


* Old Actions:
ACTION: 06/10/24 - Smith to investigate interim solution (static page) for email subscribers
- IN PROGRESS

ACTION: 11/06/23 - Smith to work on "Internet Printing Protocol" technology page for PWG
website w/ use cases
- IN PROGRESS

ACTION: 05/22/23 - Alan / Mike to talk together offline about integrating IDS content / domain
into the [Security] page content
- IN PROGRESS

ACTION: 05/22/23 - Smith to pull in the videos and try to get copies to Till / Aveek, and also
investigate video sizes and hosting choices if we choose to do this ourselves
- CLOSED / DNR
- Not going to share the videos so closed as unresolved

ACTION: 10/31/22 - Paul to post 3D / IPP article next draft for review at an upcoming Tiger Team
meeting
- CLOSED
- Webinar needs to be completed first and the "macro" task is in progress

ACTION: 08/22/22 - Jeremy to reach out to Mike for review of PWG Website update for Security
and Privacy at a future PWG SC Tiger Team meeting
- CLOSED
- IDS review is above too

ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith / Ira to add discussion of change logs in the new draft "PWG
Documents Style Policy"
- CLOSED
- Issues that this document was going to cover are covered by the template and we
never wrote this policy document

ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith to create new "PWG Documents Style Policy" and add line
numbering, change logs, and other style recommendations there, so that they don't get lost - also 
add text discussing templates as well
- CLOSED
- Issues that this document was going to cover are covered by the template and we
never wrote this policy document

ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith / Ira to keep nudging forward IPP Everywhere™ plugfest
- CLOSED
- Can't remember what this even was...

ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to look for alternate web hosting providers and / or discuss other
solutions with Mike Sweet
- CLOSED
- We have the ICDSoft account and we are in the middle of figuring out how to use it
in our communications infrastructure transition (that is very slow)

ACTION: Smith / Mike / Ira/ anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in 
Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the 
PWG's work
- CLOSED
- Not sure who is interested in consuming this document at this point

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- CLOSED
- see LDAP OIDs in Schema for Printer Services (RFC 7612)

(3) PWG Hosting Organization - status (Mike/Jeremy/Smith/Ira)
https://www.icdsoft.com/
https://github.com/istopwg/website/wiki/2023-Communications-Infrastructure-Update
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- Discussion
  - No updates this week - waiting for Mike to get some cycles to spare
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(4) SC workflow while Ira is away - status (Jeremy/Smith/Ira)

- Discussion
  - Jeremy or Smith will be publishing minutes while Ira is away

(5) PWG August 2024 Agenda - status (All)

- Discussion
  - We live edited the draft agenda text document on 06/17/24 but Smith never posted it after 
    the meeting
    - Smith just posted it now as a response to the SC reflector

ACTION: 07/01/24 - Smith to create the PWG August 2024 Virtual F2F meeting page
- OPEN

(6) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)

- Discussion
  - Nothing new

  - Smith to finish the small static page that the "Subscribe" links point to temporarily

(7) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/informational/bp-pwgsafegcode10-20190604-5199.7.pdf

- Discussion
  - Paul working with Alan on ICAM 2024 presentation

  - Paul to write to person who did webinar in mid-June to ask about what should be covered in
    our webinar, and that topic will also be the subject of an article

(8) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/openprinting/minutes/OP-Minutes-20240611.htm
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-May-2024/
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.10
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/libcups/releases/v3.0b2
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/1.28.17
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/2.0.0
https://openprinting.github.io/Common-Print-Dialog-Backends-Second-Generation-Sixth-Beta-Release/
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pappl/releases/tag/v1.4.6
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pdfio/releases/tag/v1.3.0
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/lprint/releases/tag/v1.3.1

- Discussion
  - See OP Monthly Steering Committee minutes link from 06/11/24 (Ira)

  - See OP Monthly news link from 06/02/24 (Till)

  - GSoC 2024 (Till/Aveek/Ira)
    - DONE - 2 April 2024 - GSoC contributor application deadline
    - DONE - 24 April 2024 - GSoC contributor proposal rankings due from Org Admins
    - DONE - 1 May 2024 - Accepted GSoC contributor projects announced
    - DONE - 1 May to 26 May 2024 - Community Bonding Period - GSoC contributors get to know mentors
    - DONE - 27 May 2024 - Coding officially begins!
      - 11 active OP GSoC 2024 projects!
    - 12 July 2024 - GSoC contributor midterm evaluations (standard coding period)
      - many active OP GSoC 2024 projects will be extended
    - 12 July to 19 August 2024 - GSoC contributors work on projects with guidance from Mentors
    - 2 September 2024 - GSoC contributor final evaluations (standard coding period)
    - 3 September 2024 - Initial results of Google Summer of Code 2024 announced

  - See OP CUPS v2.4.10 release notes link from 06/18/24 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)

  - See OP CUPS v3 beta2 release notes link from 10/05/23 (Mike)  

  - See CUPS Filters v1.28.17 release notes link from 01/24/23 (Till)

  - See CUPS Filters v2.0.0 final release notes link from 09/22/23 (Till)

  - See Common Print Dialogs Backends second generation link from 06/19/24 (Till)

  - See PAPPL v1.4.6 release notes link from 02/09/24 (Mike)

  - See PDFio v1.3.0 release notes link from late 06/28/24 (Mike)
    - Simple C library for reading and writing any version of PDF files

  - See LPrint v1.3.1 release notes link from early February (Mike)

  - OP Steering Committee
    - OP monthly calls will continue without Ira until early 2025

(9) PWG 3D PR Opportunities - update (Paul)
https://www.icam2024.com/

- Discussion
  - ICAM 2024
 
  - This month working on slides for August to answer opportunities (focus will be on ICAM)

  - Leveraging active ASTM F42 liaison in conjunction with ICAM to move things forward

(10) Other Liaisons - status (Smith, Mike)
https://3mf.io/
https://mopria.org/

- Discussion
  - 3MF Consortium
    - No updates

  - Mopria
    - No updates

(11) Next SC meetings

- SC - Monday 8 July 2024
  - CANCELED due to US Independence Day holiday weekend

- SC - Monday 15 July 2024 at 3-4pm US Eastern
  - Regular call

- SC - Monday 22 July 2024 at 3-4pm US Eastern
  - Review draft Plenary slides

- SC - Monday 29 July 2024 at 3-4pm US Eastern
  - Review final Plenary slides

- SC - Monday 5 August 2024
  - CANCELED due to PWG August 2024 F2F this week

- SC - Monday 12 August 2024
  - CANCELED due to PWG August 2024 F2F previous week 

- SC - Monday 19 August 2024 at 3-4pm US Eastern
  - Postmortem on PWG August 2024 F2F

Previous Action Items

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- CLOSED
- see LDAP OIDs in Schema for Printer Services (RFC 7612)
ACTION: Smith / Mike / Ira/ anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the PWG's work
- CLOSED
- Not sure who is interested in consuming this document at this point
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to look for alternate web hosting providers and / or discuss other solutions with Mike Sweet
- CLOSED
- We have the ICDSoft account and we are in the middle of figuring out how to use it in our communications infrastructure transition (that is very slow)
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith / Ira to keep nudging forward IPP Everywhere™ plugfest
- CLOSED
- Can't remember what this even was...
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith to create new "PWG Documents Style Policy" and add line numbering, change logs, and other style recommendations there, so that they don't get lost - also add text discussing templates as well
- CLOSED
- Issues that this document was going to cover are covered by the templates and we never wrote this policy document
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith / Ira to add discussion of change logs in the new draft "PWG Documents Style Policy"
- CLOSED
- Issues that this document was going to cover are covered by the templates and we never wrote this policy document
ACTION: 08/22/22 - Jeremy to reach out to Mike for review of PWG Website update for Security and Privacy at a future PWG SC Tiger Team meeting
- CLOSED
- See related IDS action from May 2023
ACTION: 10/31/22 - Paul to post 3D / IPP article next draft for review at an upcoming Tiger Team meeting
- CLOSED
- Webinar needs to be completed first and the "macro" task is in progress
ACTION: 05/22/23 - Smith to pull in the videos and try to get copies to Till / Aveek, and also investigate video sizes and hosting choices if we choose to do this ourselves
- CLOSED
- Not going to share the videos so closed as unresolved
ACTION: 05/22/23 - Alan / Mike to talk together offline about integrating IDS content / domain into the [Security] page content
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 11/06/23 - Smith to work on "Internet Printing Protocol" technology page for PWG website w/ use cases
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 01/08/24 - Mike to prepare comments / summary slides on progress evaluating ICDSoft and Github PWG hosting infrastructure capabilites
- IN PROGRESS
- Refresh from action of 09/28/23
ACTION: 01/08/24: Paul to investigate Webinar / recording options to produce a video and where to host it (pwg.org, WebEx, YouTube)
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/10/24 - Jeremy to ask Mike to give an update on PWG Hosting Organization in an upcoming SC meeting
- CLOSED
ACTION: 06/10/24 - Jeremy to follow-up with Alan about IDS session plan for PWG August 2024
- CLOSED
ACTION: 06/10/24 - Smith to look at "IPP next steps" from PWG May 2024 and post a draft agenda for PWG August 2024
- CLOSED
ACTION: 06/10/24 - Smith to investigate interim solution (static page) for email subscribers
- IN PROGRESS