This meeting was announced and chaired by Smith Kennedy.
These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with much help from Smith Kennedy.
- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy - Ira McDonald as minute taker - Proposed Agenda: (1) Review previous minutes and action items (2) Next steps/approval of Anne's work-in-progress Infographic? (3) Postulated Tiger Team for review of IPP-related bug reports? (4) More generally, maybe Self-Cert exceptions process? (5) Imaging Model definition - "intent-based" vs. "process-based" (6) OP query about PWG 2017 meetings? Joint PWG/OPS in April 2017 at Apple?
- Review minutes of SC on 19 May 2016 - Approved as posted - Review all open action items - See 'Previous Action Items' belowACTION: All SC members to create a pwg.org account and a GitHub account for use reviewing IPP Everywhere Self Certification and code changes
- Discussion
- Anne sent Infographic first draft (reviewed by SC)
- Infographic final draft is TBD (soon)
- SC members to be responsive on email thread to provide prompt feedback
- Discussion
- Let IPP WG (or whatever WG team needs to do this) convene a tiger team
at a time separate from the typical WG meeting times to allow review of
proposed code changes / resolution of defects in pull requests
ACTION: Smith to ask Ira / Mike to convene a tiger team for IPP WG to review
bugs / proposed fixes
- Discussion
- Would require reviewers to have an account on www.pwg.org
- Should someone from a company with a device that is not passing submit
certification results and requesting exceptions, and let that process
drive changing the test suite?
- Or should bug fixes be submitted and then the vendor waits for a new release
of the self-certification test suite?
ACTION: Smith to pose Self-Cert exceptions question to IPP WG officers to start
- Discussion
- Mike's thoughts: "The whole intent-vs-process can-of-worms probably needs
some extended discussion in the IPP and SM WGs, and maybe a good topic at the
next face-to-face as an "all hands" session. Like I mentioned in my last post
to the IPP list, print services that use physical devices have to necessarily
deal with hard constraints - the question is basically where do we draw the
line and what implementation guidance do we provide for edge cases?"
- Consider a whitepaper that outlines the "PWG Imaging Model and Design Ethos"
- Condensed tight description and value proposition of this, which is currently
spread across a number of different specification documents in obscure
locations
- Talking points
- PWG IPP is intent-based as opposed to CIP4 JDF model which is process-based
- intent == User intent (i.e., human user of an IPP Client)
- Remove need for User to be intimately aware of the Device details
- Print Servers don't want to present all the Job constraints
- Job portability is diminished by process-based Job submissions
- Value of overt Job Ticket attributes separate from the Job stream versus
transforming the Job stream content before transmission (perhaps in an
obfuscated way)
- Late Binding of Job Ticket attributes to achieve higher output fidelity
- Discussion
- PWG Fall 2016 meeting
- Lexmark willing to host
- Early November better for Smith...
- Physical versus Virtual?
- Smith to get TCG and 3MF calendars added to other orgs' calendar page
- Ira notes TCG new public website has broken calendar - to be resolved
ACTION: Smith to run an early SurveyMonkey on PWG Fall 2016 meeting to see if
people are free to travel then and what week?
- SC - Thursday 23 June 9am Pacific / 12pm Eastern - (Smith unavailable 06/09 and 06/16) - SC - Thursday 7 June 9am Pacific / 12pm Eastern (tentative) - may conflict w/ US Holiday July 4th