Subject: IPP> June 4th Conference Call Minutes

From: [email-masked]
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 07:36:54 -0400

To:       [email-masked]
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From:     Don Wright @ LEXMARK@LEXMTA
Date:     06/05/97 07:36:54 AM
Subject:  June 4th Conference Call Minutes

I have uploaded today's conference call minutes to the
ftp server and have attached them to the bottom of this
note.  The minutes are available as follows:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/970604-ipp-conference-call.txt
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/970604-ipp-conference-call.pdf

As I will be in Japan for the next two weeks, I trust someone
will volunteer to do this job for those conference calls.

Don

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PWG - Internet Printing Project
Conference Call - June 4, 1997

The meeting was called to order at 4:00 PM EDT.

Attendees:

Bob Herriott - Sun
Carl-Uno Manros - Xerox
Don Wright - Lexmark
Steve Zilles - Adobe
Tom Hastings - Xerox
Ron Bergman - Data Products
Randy Turner - Sharp
Lee Farrell - Canon
Scott Isaacson - Novell
Patrick Powell - UCSD
J.K. Martin - Underscore
Jeff Copeland - QMS
Peter Zehler - Xerox
Harry Lewis - IBM

Munich Plenary

- Plan is to split up the document review into multiple sessions
- No MIB meetings to avoid
- Should avoid WEBDav,  IP over 1394, HTTP, Internet FAX
- Should plan on 30-40 people in attendance

JOB MIB

Discussion on State Names:

Three alternatives:
  - Pending-Stopped
  - Held
  - Pending-Held   ** This was the name selected

A discussion was held on how various fringe conditions could be represented
 by the various states and
which ones are mandatory.

An inconsistency was raised concerning incoming and outgoing jobs' states:
When the job state reason is
"incoming" what should the job state be?  ** PENDING or PROCESSING are both
 valid.  Same question
for outgoing? ** No resolution was agreed to.

The seven JOB-STATES are now:

Completed-Aborted
Completed-Canceled
Completed
Processing
Processing-Stopped
Pending-Held
Pending

Only the JOB-STATE and JOB-STATE-REASONS attributes are required but none
of the enumerated
values are mandatory.  The discussion on this was cut short due to time
constraints; however, almost all the
participants did not believe that we needed to provide more than just
implementation recommendations as
to which JOB-STATES and JOB-STATE-REASONS values are returned by any one
implementation.

The Model meeting will be on Friday to further discuss the above.

MODEL SUB-GROUP

New document posted - ready for review.

Discussion on need for "level's of conformance"
     - There were strong feelings by some people that we shouldn't have two
 levels
     - Reality of the market says there will be a large number of
installations of whatever
                 Microsoft does.
     - No decision was made.

Scott would like comments and questions by commenting on the document by
specific line number by June
16th.

The goal is to provide another draft before the August IETF meeting.

PROTOCOL SUB-GROUP

There was a meeting on Monday working and commenting on Randy's Protocol
document.  Changes will be
reflected into the next revision of the document.  Steve Zilles has a
concern about not including the attribute
type in the encoding.  He will be writing up this concern and posting it to
 the mailing list.

We will need to register application/IPP as a MIME type either as a
separate document or as an appendix to
an existing document.

There will be a Protocol sub-group meeting on June 17th at Sun in Menlo
Park from 9:30 AM until 6 PM.

SECURITY SUB-GROUP

No report from Roger Debry (he was not on the call.)   Carl-Uno reported
that progress was being made and
a new draft should be issued soon.  Randy Turner and Scott Isaacson briefly
 reviewed the discussion from
the last meeting.  One of the open issues is the security implications of
"print by reference."

OPERATIONS

Validate is believed by many of the participants that the validate
operation is a good one to have.

A question was raised as to who, if anyone, was implementing IPP on the
Macintosh.

White space in data (tab, cr, lf, etc.) is not a delimiter.  This will be
clarified in the next version of Randy's
protocol document.

Randy will make his document into an Internet Draft and will send it to
Carl-Uno to get it published by the
IETF.

Rationale for selected HTTP will need to eventually included in the
protocol document.  Steve Zilles will
start working on that document (separate, at least at first.)

Don Wright and Steve Zilles will not be on the next two calls.  A secretary
 will be needed for those calls.

The meeting adjourned at 6 PM EDT.

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