PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 24 February 2025

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Vice Chair)
Jeremy Leber (Lexmark, PWG Chair)
Ira McDonald (High North, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Paul Tykodi (TCS, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Bill Wagner (TIC, former Cloud WG Chair, former WIMS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Jeremy Leber.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with draft minutes from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Meeting was called to order and agenda reviewed

- Revised Agenda:

  (1) Administrivia
  (2) Action Item Review (all)
  (3) Membership Dues - unpaid (Jeremy/Smith)
  (4) February F2F - postmortem (all)
  (5) May Joint PWG/OP Summit F2F - planning (all)
  (6) Communication Challenges (all)
  (7) JG 80 Liaison Discussion - any updates? (Paul)
  (8) PWG 3D - IPP Article Development (Paul)
  (9) PWG 3D - PR Opportunities (Paul)
  (10) OpenPrinting/GSoC - updates (Ira)
  (11) Other Liaisons (all)
  (12) Next SC Meetings (all)

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20250127.htm
http://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/minutes/pwg-plenary-minutes-20250204.htm

- IPR and Antitrust

- Roll Call

- Review minutes of SC meeting (27 January 2025)
  - Approved 

- Review minutes of Plenary at PWG F2F (4 February 2025)
  - Approved

(2) Action Item Review (all)

ACTION: 12/16/24 - Paul to finish email to a guy at Auburn U. that does the cybersecurity track 
at [ICAM?]
- OPEN

ACTION: 12/16/24 - Paul to get the draft document presented at VDMA meeting that is close to 
completion and approval so that he and we can make comments on it before it is approved (if 
that opening is still available)
- OPEN

ACTION: 01/27/25 - Jeremy / Smith to contact members that are nearing being in not good 
standing to get their dues paid before due date of 01/31/25
- OPEN

ACTION: 01/27/25 - Smith to add Fiery back in to members web page
- CLOSED - they are now part of Epson

(3) Membership Dues - unpaid (Jeremy/Smith)

- Discussion
  - 4 members still unpaid: KM, Ricoh, Toshiba, Alan Sukert

  - New representative roster from KM - look that up and make sure the scorecard is up to 
    date and reach out to them about dues payments

  - Jeremy and Smith need to get on it :)

(4) February F2F - postmortem (all)
https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/february-2025-virtual.html

- Discussion
  - Discussions on IPP smaller topics and on 3D were very productive

  - 3D topics helped to narrow and tighten up the objectives

  - IDS is still struggling with charter and engagement

  - Perhaps we need to deactivate IDS?

  - MassDOT has some mandates that suggest use cases that could drive some additional work 
    in the IDS WG but these use cases haven't been contributed to the group yet (Paul)

  - Intermediate certification for SMB / prosumer / enterprise-lite class of devices? 
    - Who would do that certification? PWG? Mopria?

    - Should some of this be part of an IPP/2.1 level IPP Everywhere v2.0 certification?

  - Procurement processes for copiers were leveraged over to cover MFDs but none of the 
    processes evaluate the network aspects of this - they are still focused on the human 
    repair time service contract aspect, i.e., how soon are boots on the ground fixing the
    copier / printer

ACTION: 02/24/25 - PWG SC to continue IDS Future discussion as a discrete topic
- OPEN

(5) May Joint PWG/OP Summit F2F - planning (all)
https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/meetings.html
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- Discussion
  - Nothing major yet

  - Since it is virtualized the urgency of planning has diminished
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ACTION: 02/24/25 - Ira to query LFOP for topic ideas for Joint PWG/OP Summit in May 2025
- IN PROGRESS
(6) PWG Communication Challenges (all)
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- Discussion
  - None at the moment
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(7) JG 80 Liaison Discussion - any updates? (Paul)

- Discussion
  - They just had an ASTM TC261 meeting (in Austin?) and Paul needs to check in with the 
    folks to find out why they reached out originally and what next steps are

ACTION: 02/24/25 - Paul to follow up with convener of JG 80 on next steps
- OPEN

(8) PWG 3D - IPP Article Development (Paul)

- Discussion
  - Paul wants to work on that with Alan so on hold until 15 April 2025 or so

(9) PWG 3D - PR Opportunities (Paul)

- Discussion
  - See above Action Items

(10) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - updates (Ira)
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/openprinting/minutes/
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News/
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-Google-Summer-of-Code-2025-Project-Ideas-List-posted/
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.11
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/2.1.1
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pappl/releases/tag/v1.4.8
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pdfio/releases/tag/v1.4.1
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/lprint/releases/tag/v1.3.1

- Discussion

  - GSoC 2025 - see timeline link above (posted by Google on 01/14/25)
    - 01/27/25 - DONE - Mentoring organizations can begin submitting applications to Google
    - 02/11/25 - DONE - Mentoring organization application deadline
    - 02/27/25 - DONE - List of accepted mentoring organizations published - LF accepted!
    - 02/27/25 to 03/24/25 - Potential GSoC contributors discuss application ideas
    - 03/24/25 - GSoC contributor application period begins
    - 04/08/25 - GSoC contributor application deadline
    - 04/29/25 - GSoC contributor proposal rankings due from Org Admins
    - 05/08/25 - Accepted GSoC contributor projects announced
    - 05/08/25 to 06/01/25 - Community Bonding Period: GSoC contributors get to know mentors
    - 06/02/25 - Coding officially begins
    - 07/18/25 - Midterm evaluation deadline (standard coding period)
    - 08/25/25 to 09/01/25 - Final week: GSoC contributors submit their final work product
    - 09/08/25 - Mentors submit final GSoC contributor evaluations (standard coding period)
    - 09/01/25 to 11/09/25 - GSoC contributors continue coding (extended coding period)
    - 11/18/25 - GSoC contributors to submit their final work product 


  - See OP Monthly Steering Committee minutes link above (Ira)

  - See OpenPrinting News recent topic links above (Till)

  - See OP CUPS v2.4.11 release notes link from 09/24/24 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)

  - See OP CUPS v3 release candidate 3 release notes link from 10/22/24 (Mike)  

  - See CUPS Filters v2.1.1 release notes link from 02/18/25 (Till)

  - See PAPPL v1.4.8 release notes link from 11/14/24 (Mike)

  - See PDFio v1.4.1 release notes link from 01/24/24 (Mike)
    - Simple C library for reading and writing any version of PDF files

  - See LPrint v1.3.1 release notes link from 02/09/24 (Mike)

  - OP Steering Committee
    - OP monthly calls on 01/14/25, 02/18/25, and upcoming 03/11/25

(11) Other Liaisons (all)
https://mopria.org/
https://3mf.io/

- Discussion
  - Mopria
    - No update

  - 3MF Consortium
    - No Update

(12) Next SC meetings

- SC - Monday 3 March 2025
  - CANCELED (every other week cadence)

- SC - Monday 10 March 2025
  - Regular meeting

- SC - Monday 17 March 2025
  - CANCELED (every other week cadence)
  - Ira absent due to IETF 122 Hybrid F2F (Bangkok)

- SC - Monday 24 March 2025
  - Regular meeting
  - Ira absent due to surgery

Previous Action Items

ACTION: 12/16/24 - Paul to finish email to a guy at Auburn U. that does the cybersecurity track at [ICAM?]
- OPEN
ACTION: 12/16/24 - Paul to get the draft document presented at VDMA meeting that is close to completion and approval so that he and we can make comments on it before it is approved (if that opening is still available)
- OPEN
ACTION: 01/27/25 - Jeremy / Smith to contact members that are nearing being in not good standing to get their dues paid before due date of 01/31/25
- OPEN
ACTION: 01/27/25 - Smith to add Fiery back in to members web page
- CLOSED - they are now part of Epson