PWG Steering Committee Minutes * 11 September 2023

Attendees

Smith Kennedy (HP Inc, PWG Vice Chair)
Jeremy Leber (Lexmark, PWG Chair)
Ira McDonald (High North, PWG Secretary, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Alan Sukert (Independent, IDS WG Chair)
Paul Tykodi (TCS, IPP WG Co-Chair)
Bill Wagner (TIC, former Cloud WG Chair, former WIMS WG Chair)

Preface

This meeting was announced and chaired by Jeremy Leber.

These minutes were prepared by Ira McDonald with draft minutes from Smith Kennedy.

Agenda

(0) Agenda bashing, IP Policy, minute taker

- Review agenda and state PWG IP Policy
  - Ira McDonald and Smith Kennedy as minute takers

- Revised Agenda:

  (1) Administrivia
  (2) Action Item Review
  (3) PWG Process 4.0 - status (All)
  (4) PWG November F2F - schedule (All)
  (5) PWG Hosting Organization - update (Jeremy/Smith/Ira)
  (6) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)
  (7) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
  (8) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
  (9) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2023 - update (Paul)
  (10) Next SC meetings

(1) Administrivia
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/sc/pwg-sc-call-minutes-20230828.htm

- IPR and Antitrust

- Roll Call

- Review minutes of SC meeting (28 August 2023)
  - Approved

(2) Action Item Review

ACTION: 08/21/23 - Jeremy / Smith to post Process 4.0 approval announcement to pwg-announce
- CLOSED

ACTION: 08/21/23 - Smith to make PWG November 2023 draft agenda w/ IDS on Wednesday
(11/15/23) and all IPP sessions on Thursday (11/16/23)
- CLOSED

ACTION: 08/21/23 - Smith to discuss with Mike PWG site migration from VM to ICDSoft
- CLOSED

ACTION: 07/31/23 - Jeremy / Smith / Ira to send an email blast to members to ask for updated 
contact info before Fall 2023 Membership Renewals
- IN PROGRESS

(3) PWG Process 4.0 - status (All)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/pwg-process-4.pdf

- Discussion
  - Smith updated links on public website pages (about.html, members.html)

  - Jeremy sent note to PWG-Announce this morning w/ About and Process links (09/11/23)

(4) PWG November F2F - schedule (All)
https://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/november-2023-virtual.html

- Discussion
  - Meeting page created with agenda (and WebEx session)

  - Some 3D topics may cause the 3D session to be busy
    - Alan to cover the ICAM presentation results and let the UCI

  - Add IPP/2.0 4th edition / IPP Everywhere v2.0 to prototype ready topic

  - Paul's query posted to SC about W3C CSS Print and re-engagement on this 
    - What about this W3C CSS Print topic?

    - Why not post this to IPP WG?

    - Bill was involved with this whenever it was being worked on in the past (2012-2015)

    - This is about CSS / rules for rendering a web page into a properly paginated and 
      printable format

ACTION: 09/11/23 - Paul/Ira to re-forward the W3C CSS Print query to the IPP WG reflector
- CLOSED

(5) PWG Hosting Organization - update (Jeremy/Smith/Ira)
https://www.icdsoft.com/
https://github.com/istopwg/website/wiki/2023-Communications-Infrastructure-Update

- Discussion
  - Smith wrote up approaches and challenges in tables on PWG Wiki (see link above)
    - Current system >>> ICDSoft : light touch on content / mechanism changes

    - Current system >>> GitHub Pages or equivalent : much more revolutionary changes

  - Mike's main pain point with the current page is all the spam he gets with user account 
    registration spam

  - How much disk space do we use?
    - Web

    - FTP

    - Mailing list archives

  - We should dedicate an entire meeting to this topic and make sure that Mike will be able 
    to attend

  - Ira: We should do the migrate to ICDSoft as a first step and then do more invasive surgery 
    once we are at least off the current Linode VM
    - Biggest thrash might be the movement of domain resolution

  - ICDSoft prototype: https://pwg.sureserver.com/

  - More on this topic soon

(6) PWG Communications Challenges - status (All)

- Discussion
  - Seems to be working fine currently

(7) PWG 3D / IPP article development - status (All)
https://amcoe.org/event/icam2023/
https://amcoe.org/event/forum23/
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- Discussion
  - ICAM 2023 update
    - All ready to go

    - Paul please look at Alan's slides!! :)
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(8) OpenPrinting News/GSoC - update (Ira)
https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/liaison/openprinting/minutes/OP-Minutes-20230822.htm
https://openprinting.github.io/OpenPrinting-News-August-2023/
https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.3
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.4
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.5
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/releases/tag/v2.4.6
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/libcups/releases/v3.0b1
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/1.28.17
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups-filters/releases/tag/2.0rc2
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pappl/releases/tag/v1.3.4
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/pdfio/releases/tag/v1.0.1
https://github.com/michaelrsweet/lprint/releases/tag/v1.2.0

- Discussion
  - See OP Monthly Steering Committee minutes link from 08/22/23 (Ira)

  - See OP Monthly news link from 09/05/23 (Till)

  - GSoC 2023 (Till/Aveek/Ira)
    - See timeline link above!
    - DONE - 23 January 2023 - Mentoring organiza􀀁ons start submitting applications to Google
    - DONE - 7 February 2023 - Mentoring organiza􀀁on application deadline
    - DONE - 22 February 2023 - List of accepted mentoring orgs published - LF accepted!
    - DONE - 22 February to 19 March 2023 - Poten􀀁al GSoC contributors discuss application
             ideas with mentoring organizations
    - DONE - 20 March 2023 - GSoC contributor application period begins
    - DONE - 4 April 2023 - GSoC contributor application period ends
    - DONE - 27 April 2023 - GSoC contributor proposal rankings due from Org Admins
    - DONE - 4 May 2023 - Accepted GSoC contributor projects announced
    - DONE - 4-28 May 2023 - Community Bonding Period - GSoC contributors get to know mentors
    - DONE - 29 May 2023 - Coding officially begins!
    - DONE - 14 July 2023 - Midterm evaluation deadline (standard coding period)
    - DONE - 21-28 August 2023 - GSoC contributors submit code - all OP projects were extended
    - TBD September 2023 - Mentors submit final GSoC contributor evaluations - delayed
    - TBD September 2023 - Initial results of Google Summer of Code 2023 announced - delayed

  - See OP CUPS v2.4.3 release notes link from 06/01/23 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)
    - First OP CUPS v2.4.x release since May 2022 - see bug fix quick releases below
    - See OP CUPS v2.4.4 hot fix release notes link from 06/06/23 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)
    - See OP CUPS v2.4.5 hot fix release notes link from 06/13/23 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)
    - See OP CUPS v2.4.6 hot fix release notes link from 06/22/23 (Zdenek Dohnal, RedHat)

  - See OP CUPS v3 beta1 release notes link from 02/09/23 (Mike)  

  - See CUPS Filters v1.28.17 release notes link from 01/24/23 (Till)

  - See CUPS Filters v2.0rc2 release candidate notes link from 07/04/23 (Till)

  - See PAPPL v1.3.4 release notes link from 09/07/23 (Mike)

  - See PDFio v1.0.1 release notes link from 03/21/22 (Mike)
    - Simple C library for reading and writing any version of PDF files

  - See LPrint v1.2.0 release notes link from 12/31/22 (Mike)

  - OP Steering Committee
    - OP monthly calls 07/11/23, 08/22/23, and upcoming 09/19/23

(9) PWG 3D PR Opportunities 2023 - update (Paul)
https://www.concrete.org/ (ACI)
https://www.nationalacademies.org/trb/transportation-research-board (TRB)

- Discussion
  - American Concrete Institute (ACI) event on 10/29/23 to 11/02/23 in Boston, MA

  - May be another 3D printing event fairly soon too 
    - Paul may be asked to do another presentation and will send update to SC list

  - Transportation Research Board (TRB) Third International Conference on 3D Printing and
    Transportation on 11/07/24 to 11/08/24 in Irvine, CA - next year!
    - Paul may be able to do a presentation

(10) Next SC meetings

- SC - Monday 18 September 2023
  - Regular meeting
  - Try to discuss web hosting / infrastructure with Mike

- SC - Monday 25 September 2023
  - Alan will NOT attend (Yom Kippur)
  - Don't discuss web hosting stuff here

- SC - Monday 2 October 2023
  - Regular meeting

- SC - Monday 9 October 2023
  - Regular meeting

Previous Action Items

ACTION: Ira to document OID arc usage in PWG
- OPEN - pwg-mib-numbers-20091220.txt
- "arc" is any single value (often least-significant) in an OID - Existing plain text PWG policy and registry for each PWG MIB base OID - IBM gave PWG a permanent arc for LDAP OIDs for Print Schema (RFC 7612)
- LDAP OIDs to be documented in a additional policy and registry in ".../process/"
ACTION: Smith / Mike / Ira/ anybody to draft whitepaper on late binding for best fidelity in Cloud servers, intent vs. process for output fidelity, and the fundamental design ethos of the PWG's work
- OPEN
- Perhaps have as a topic for some future PWG F2F to enumerate core set of concepts with which to construct an outline for the document
- Smith to add discussion of this late binding for the future F2F Plenary
ACTION: 07/15/19 - Smith to look for alternate web hosting providers and / or discuss other solutions with Mike Sweet
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 09/09/19 - Smith / Ira to keep nudging forward IPP Everywhere™ plugfest
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith to create new "PWG Documents Style Policy" and add line numbering, change logs, and other style recommendations there, so that they don't get lost - also add text discussing templates as well
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 06/15/20 - Smith / Ira to add discussion of change logs in the new draft "PWG Documents Style Policy"
- OPEN
ACTION: 08/22/22 - Jeremy to reach out to Mike for review of PWG Website update for Security and Privacy at a future PWG SC Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 10/31/22 - Paul to post 3D / IPP article next draft for review at an upcoming Tiger Team meeting
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 05/22/23 - Smith to pull in the videos and try to get copies to Till / Aveek, and also investigate video sizes and hosting choices if we choose to do this ourselves
- OPEN
ACTION: 05/22/23 - Alan / Mike to talk together offline about integrating IDS content / domain into the page content
- OPEN
ACTION: 06/26/23 - Smith to get with Mike and Ira to insert copyright pointer page to Process 4.0 to be inserted between first page and the table of contents page in PWG Policy documents, to refer the reader of a Policy document to Process 4.0 rather than the longer form copyright notification
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 07/17/23 - Alan / Paul to reach out to ICAM about status and delays
- IN PROGRESS
- Discussed with Joni, Alan/Paul to follow-through to complete registration
ACTION: 07/31/23 - Jeremy / Smith / Ira to send an email blast to members to ask for updated contact info before Fall 2023 Membership Renewals
- IN PROGRESS
ACTION: 08/21/23 - Jeremy / Smith to post Process 4.0 approval announcement to pwg-announce
- CLOSED
ACTION: 08/21/23 - Smith to make PWG November 2023 draft agenda w/ IDS on Wednesday (11/15/23) and all IPP sessions on Thursday (11/16/23)
- CLOSED
ACTION: 08/21/23 - Smith to discuss with Mike PWG site migration from VM to ICDSoft
- CLOSED