[IPP] media-type names and cotton?

Tue Jun 19 02:56:04 UTC 2012

Hi Mike,

I have been meaning to send in a question about how we should represent
printed electronics. To some degree, the technology creates the same
semantic issues as fabric but it also brings color of ink when current is
applied into the semantics as well.

See: http://www.printedelectroniccover.com/

Best Regards,

/Paul

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From: ipp-bounces at pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces at pwg.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Sweet
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 5:50 PM
To: William A Wagner
Cc: ipp at pwg.org
Subject: Re: [IPP] media-type names and cotton?

Bill,

I did some quick searches and found the obligatory Wikipedia article:

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton_paper

This page would seem to indicate that the more general term is now just
"cotton paper" or "cotton bond paper" since rags/scrap fabric are only one
source of the fibers.

So my proposed addition is "stationery-cotton".

........

A search for printable fabrics yielded some available inkjet products:

http://www.amazon.com/Avery-Printable-Fabric-Printers-03384/dp/B0000C0CJZ

http://www.lexjet.com/p-3009-Photo-Tex-PSA-Fabric-Aqueous-Printers.aspx

            http://www.fabricdepot.com/index.php?page=CatalogPage
<http://www.fabricdepot.com/index.php?page=CatalogPage&pageid=14515>
&pageid=14515

I see a variety of sheet and roll media, with and without adhesive backing
(some are iron-on, some are room temperature adhesives). How about the
following additional type names:

            fabric                                       Generic printable
fabric (sheets or rolls)

            fabric-heat-adhesive                Printable fabric with a
heat-activated adhesive backing

            fabric-self-adhesive                 Printable fabric with a
self-adhesive backing (no heat required)

            fabric-fine                                           Printable
fabric with a thread count of 200 or more

            fabric-coarse                            Printable fabric with a
thread count less then 100

On Jun 18, 2012, at 1:23 PM, William A Wagner wrote:

Mike,

I suggest that the use of "fabric" as a top-level media type is reasonable
but as a qualifier for stationary is not, because the word refers to the
product of a  weaving or felting process, not the type of fiber used.  If a
general qualifier is needed, the common term is rag (at least it used to
be); e.g., rag-content paper. But I recall the specific request was for
"cotton" and cotton is the fiber normally used in rag paper.

Further, whereas Cotton paper is made from cotton fibers, my understand is
that the term Linen paper  commonly refers to wood pulp or cotton paper
finished to look/have the texture of linen, so the use of cotton and linen
are not parallel in this context.

Thanks,

Bill Wagner

From: ipp-bounces at pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces at pwg.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Sweet
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 3:40 PM
To: Petrie, Glen
Cc: ipp at pwg.org
Subject: Re: [IPP] media-type names and cotton?

Glen,

"stationery" is just plain sheets of paper. There are qualified versions of
stationery as well, e.g., "stationery-letterhead", so this would just be
another form of that - think special paper used for cover letters or resumes
that otherwise behaves and is used like plain paper.

Technically we could use "fabric" as a top-level media type with qualified
versions for different fabrics and finishes, e.g.:

            fabric

            fabric-cotton

            fabric-glossy

            fabric-high-gloss

            fabric-inkjet

            fabric-linen

            fabric-matte

            fabric-semi-gloss

            fabric-tweed

            fabric-waterproof

however I would consider those types to be specific to fabric printing, e.g.
curtains, clothing, etc., and not to sheets of specialized paper.

On Jun 18, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Petrie, Glen wrote:

Mike

Maybe I wrong but I thought stationery was just another word for "plain"; so
this new name means "plain-cotton".   Is there anything wrong with just
cotton and linen?

Glen

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From: ipp-bounces at pwg.org [mailto:ipp-bounces at pwg.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Sweet
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 12:22 PM
To: Peter Zehler
Cc: <ipp at pwg.org>
Subject: [IPP] media-type names and cotton?

Pete/All,

Do I just need to add "stationery-cotton" to the media type name list in
MSN2?

Do we want this generalized (stationery-fabric?) or list other materials,
e.g., linen?

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