[IPP] Media Color for MSN spec
    Petrie, Glen 
    glen.petrie at eitc.epson.com
       
    Fri Mar 30 21:27:34 UTC 2012
    
    
  
Mike
 
Thanks for jogging my memory on some of the more vivid colored media.  I
still not sure colorant and media with the same color name are the same
color.  I looked at these and others; most do not give rgb values and in
many cases a color name like "green" is used for several different
"green colored" media.   
 
As you stated in the last email "magenta colored media" is sold as
pink/fluorescent-pink.  So do we have magenta colorant and
pink/fluorescent-pink media; even thought they are the """"same""""
color.   Is there a "well-known" list of colored media names?
 
What I did not consider at the time was investigating the actual paper
manufactures (that would a shorter list) instead of distributor or
retailers.    Note that distributors and retailers give product
"interesting name" for selling/marketing purposes which increases the
problem.
 
Perhaps, as time, permits I can contact one or more manufactures to see
if can provide rgb values for the various colored and white media.
Short of that, I have a spectrometer that I could actually measure
samples to determine a media rgb value for each color media we decide to
list. 
 
I would hope any list for colorant is short(er) and fairly well known
even if there are variations in the actual rgb value of a specific
colorant color.
 
Glen
 
 
 
 
 
________________________________
From: Michael Sweet [mailto:msweet at apple.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 1:51 PM
To: Petrie, Glen
Cc: <ipp at pwg.org>
Subject: Re: [IPP] Media Color for MSN spec
 
All,
 
Here are some "reference" pages I pulled from a search on staples.com
for "colored paper"...
 
 
Solid paper colors which match up to what I'd expect for a colorant
color:
 
 
http://www.staples.com/Staples-Brights-24-lb-Colored-Paper-Assorted-Colo
rs/product_733088
 
 
Solid paper colors which map to alternate colors, some of which match
what you might use for a colorant color (for purposes of UI...):
 
 
http://www.staples.com/Staples-Pastel-Colored-Copy-Paper-11-x-17-Assorte
d-Colors/product_679462
 
 
Neon colors:
 
 
http://www.staples.com/Staples-Brights-24-lb-Colored-Paper-Neon-Assorted
/product_733097
 
 
And even within a single supplier, you'll find multiple products with
the same color name but vastly different actual colors:
 
            GREEN
 
 
http://www.staples.com/Staples-Brights-Colored-Paper-8-1-2-x-11-Green-Re
am/product_490879
 
http://www.staples.com/Staples-Brights-24-lb-Colored-Paper-Green/product
_733093
 
 
            ORANGE
 
 
http://www.staples.com/Staples-Brights-Colored-Paper-8-1-2-x-11-Orange-R
eam/product_490881
 
http://www.staples.com/Staples-Brights-24-lb-Colored-Paper-Orange/produc
t_733086
 
 
Then there are names we don't have (again from the same Staples search
results for "colored paper"):
 
            bright white (synonym for current "white"?)
            canary
            cherry
            cream
            fuschia
            grape
            juniper
            lilac
            orchid
            purple
            salmon
            teal
 
Finally, there are the vendor adjectives ("Pulsar Pink", "Solar Yellow",
etc.), but I feel safe ignoring those for this spec... :)
 
__________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair
 
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